Posts by Mad Irishman

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The right to shun - wrong?

by Simon in

many people are understandably upset and angry at the notion that jws have the right to shun people.

it seems such an obvious "no brainer" cruel and inhuman thing to do - it must be wrong ... surely?.

of course we look at things from the perspective of those hurt and harmed by shunning.

Mad Irishman

Duh!

Do you know how many non-Witnesses shunned me when I was a Witness? Now you're going to try and regulate what they can do?

I don't think so. It's silly to even contemplate something like that unless we turn the world into George Orwell's 1984.

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1914 'Big A' WT Retraction/Apology?!

by lurkernomore in

so i just met with an old 'friend' who wanted a 'chat' after no contact for the best part of 4 years.

she obviously heard about the wonderful news of my abrupt fade :d. i guess i wanted to prove to myself that any future meet ups/chats with jw's would be pointless.

needless to say i proved myself right.

There's been quote a few mentions of 1914 and how the organization was wrong about what happened then. Was there an apology? I wouldn't call it that, but they've printed many times how the brothers then got it wrong about what was supposed to happen.

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Huckabee: The US Is More Evil Than The Rest Of The World

by ctrwtf in

jw
friends

https://youtu.be/spnxx52oesa .

mike huckabee thinks that sin and evil, not guns, are the reason the us has so many mass shootings.. if this is true, then all things being equal, the us has more evil and sinful people than the rest of the world.

who's to blame for that?

Mad Irishman

So the ISIS people who go around cutting people's heads off by the thousands and gang raping teenagers are not worse than the worst of the lot in the U.S.?

Mike Huckabee is an absolutely loser.

People get shot in the U.S. because they have access to too many guns. Go look around the world where guns are not available and guess what? There aren't mass shootings. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. The U.S. has made its bed with guns and thus you get these types of mass shootings.

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Operation "Change meeting infrra-weekly" is a smokescreen

by LaFrancia in

the operation "change midweek meeting" probably was a move to divert attention of the brotherhood from layoffs to betel and the ranks of special pioneers, a smokescreen for the pedophilia scandal !

!operation "change meeting infrra-weekly" is a smokescreen.

what do you think ?.

Mad Irishman

Changing the format of a meeting doesn't really distract from anything.

Too many ex-JW's see a conspiracy where there is none.

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November 2015 Awake

by username in

ok. when i first looked at the cover of this issue of awake i was instantly struck on how creepy it looked.

my first impressions were the picture looked almost masonic in nature.

well, further investigation has led me to another picture that shows a grand masonic hall.

Mad Irishman

The top photo is a photo of a Baptist Church.

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For those of you who is contemplating leaving the Borg, consider...

by James Mixon in

i know it's not easy for you to walk it's a big decision, family and etc.. if you are afraid consider this.

i have been here for a few years and i can count on one hand from posters who made the statement, i can't take it anymore, i'm going back.. what is it that members here have given up their family and friends to be free.

is it so we can have sinful fun, we are our own person and no one will tell us what to do?.

Mad Irishman

"The stories of people immediately becoming promiscuous drug users after walking out of the KH are just made up from the pages of the WTS."

I can't agree with this statement. I personally know dozens of ex-Witnesses who the second they left became incredibly promiscuous (so much so that some of them would make a promiscuous person blush) and alcoholics and drug users. You haven't seen that with people, especially those under 30? Because I have. They go absolutely nuts. One of my female friends confided in me that she slept with every guy she met after she left and she was completely reckless. I know 3 other ex-sisters who became strippers. If anything most of the younger people I grew up with who left went absolutely bonkers once they left the JW's. They had no code at all.

I'm sure it's different with older people, but certainly not with Gen X'ers or Millennials .

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The Great Leap err Sideways

by Slidin Fast in

one of the most disturbing aspects of the recent cut backs is the big brother communist undemocratic aspect to it..

in china in the fifties untold millions died of starvation when on a whim the great leap forward made the economy do a u turn.

anyone who objected even slightly was in big deep trouble.

Mad Irishman

Sometimes I wonder if anyone on this site ever went to college or not, because there is not a lot of critical thinking going on sometimes.

Do you know anything about China? Do you know anything about what happened there in the 20th Century aside from what's on Wikipedia? So many members on this site connect abstract facts to something else that is abstract, both having no bearing on one another, that it is unbelievably laughable!

What does Chairman Mao trying to change China into a socialist society have to do with recent changes in the JW org? Ah, I don't see a logical thread connecting them aside from some crazy abstract theory by someone has too much time on their hands. Mao's stupidity killed some 50 million Chinese. Unless you have some digital pics of a bunch of dead JW's laying around somewhere I don't see a connection.

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Pope Francis Versus Geoffrey Jackson

by Village Idiot in

a world of difference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=74p8p3yekoc.

fast forward to 3:12 .

Mad Irishman

Please don't compare the JW's to the Catholic Church.

I know Catholic boys who were raped by priests for years and years and years even after it was well-known in the parish or the parish that they came from before that about what was going on. It is known, and this is indisputable, that priests were actively molesting and their higher ups were covering it up. These priests didn't molest one or two or ten kids. They molested hundreds! I know one who molested over 400 boys, one of which was my friend who killed himself now. And the Catholic Church not only did nothing at all, no rebuke even from the inside, they helped these monsters by moving them around to one place after another and even to one country after another (nobody got defrocked or excommunicated and there was no acknowledgement that any molestation even happened). Do you know how many kids were raped and molested by Catholic priests? We're talking about hundreds of thousands. And Pope after Pope not only covered it up they kept those guys going when they knew they were still molesting kids.

For all their faults I don't know of a single Witness case where anyone knowingly knew someone was actively molesting and they did nothing (perhaps there is but I haven't heard of that case yet). But in the Catholic Church they knew priests were actively molesting and they did nothing. As a matter of fact the Pope's and Bishops covered up for those who were actively molesting. The key would here being "actively."

To compare the two is simply an insult to those Catholic kids who were betrayed by every level of power in the Catholic Church. Comparing the Catholic Church scandal to JW's is like comparing the Titanic to Gilligan and Skipper's boat. Now this Pope makes a few conciliatory comments and he's great? He's a joke too!

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Britain Branch Construction - UPDATE

by The Searcher in

definitely something going in the london bethel.. i thought i'd ask them again (and record it again) what the situation was regarding the new britain branch construction work.. i got the same sister (debbie) and here is how the conversation went: .

me: i've been told that construction of the new branch has been stopped - is this true?.

debbie: no, it has not ceased, it's carrying on as normal - can i ask where you're calling from?.

Mad Irishman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1LF7itBndo

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Are the GB very intelligent men with higher than average IQ? Or are they stupid men who were put in their position by sheer “LUCK”

by John Aquila in

are the governing body of the wt wickedly smart with extremely high iq or are they leaders of the wt because they were at the right place at the right time.

(in other words, pure luck )-think lottery.

ive seen them talk in jwtv and you can never convince anyone in the whole world that these guys are in the same category as someone smart or cunning like jim simons who founded renaissance technologies or bill gates.

Mad Irishman

Whether they are legit or not IQ would have nothing to do with it. The apostles weren't geniuses. And I don't hear anyone calling GB members geniuses. And I've worked with some pretty intelligent people in Corporate America through the years. Intelligence is relative and people with high IQ's can be completely inept in something they are not good at.

Most people could not tell someone who had a Genius IQ from someone who does not. They can spot an idiot right away. But a 138 IQ verses a 160 IQ isn't that noticeable to most people. Just saying.